topic Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family? in XZ Series

XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Lazaros_K — Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:33:06 GMT

First of all the XZP is in the XZ1 family.

The new XZ2 has night light in the display settings now, as well as disable touchscreen with screen off.

There were camera ui and camera improvements as well as new Xperia Assist, new ui icons for settings and contacts . It also has display flash. Will the XZP get these improvements / new features ? And if yes, which? Also, just give us display flash, even a Huawei p8 lite has it. ....

Edit: One handed mode would be nice to have as well.

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Tuerkay — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 15:07:01 GMT

I´m more interested in the camera "changes" since it looks like the XZ2 hast the same Sensor as the XZP. Both have the same stats and i can´t find any information about a new sensor. Not even on the sony-semicon page.

But as it looks now. There are mostly Softwarechanges that would make the phone "better" than the XZP. So i don´t think they will bring the XZ2 features to the XZ1 series. Otherwise there would be no real reason to prefer the XZ2 over a XZ1.

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Lazaros_K — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 18:33:02 GMT

Yes but Sony mentioned the XZ Premium as their "innovation flagship ".

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Zoria — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:05:03 GMT

I have read on Sony page regarding XZ2 in camera section that it can take extraordinary pictures in low light due to multi layer sensor with attached memory. Never heard that XZP is using it. It is something that also other companies are using with its multi layer sensors. It would be nice if it could travel into XZP that also has a multi layer sensor (probably the same as XZ2 i havent noticed a sentence that there are differences). Also if the sensor is the same it should be possible to give the XZP users an additional option in super-slow mode to reduce super-slo mode time (to 3 seconds from 6) and to have higher resolution. I dont think that HDR 4k is possible due to a S835 limitations in comparison to S845.

I heard that there is an option in other companies phones to use super slow mode with move detection. It sounds very usefull, and because we have a predictive autofocus that has a move detection tool, it would be splendid to use it with super slow mode in xperia. Just imagine turning super slow mode viedo on (at normal speed), then when something moves you have an automatic 32 x slow mode turned (for example a bee starting its flight from a flower) on. If you tried to capture such moments you know that this could be a problem.

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

saved-j — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 13:47:39 GMT

1. Night Light

2. Double tap to wake

3. Proximity sensor check on DT2W - even cheapest Xiaomi phone can do it. Or the phone gets "doubletapped" against your leg in the pocket by itself.

4. FHD for super slowmo

5. movement-detected slowmo, like on Samsung S9

Lacking all of this on XZ PREMIUM is a freaking JOKE

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Zoria — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:10:41 GMT

Update for my post:

I have checked S9+ with super slow mode. I have XZP for comparison.

It looks like, when you use it for first time on S9 that its two years ahead of XZP's. It is because someone cared how will it be used and packed it with movement detection. When you use it, there is a square on your screen in the middle of it. It is waiting for a move in the square to activate super slow mode. It feels really ql. Also in super slow mode screen is extreamly fluid like its really 960 frames/s displayed. It is a shame that technicaly the same super slow mode on XZP and S9 is a different experience here and there. Sonys cameras could use a little polish as i think.

960fps slo mo resolution

Iain228 — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:21:41 GMT

So the Xperia xz2 can do 960fps slo mo at 1080p. I heard something about how the xz1 and xz2 have the same sensor? Is this true and does it mean that the xz1, xz premium and xzs could possibly receive an update for full hd 960fps slow motion?

Re: 960fps slo mo resolution

Uliwooly — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 23:21:43 GMT

@Iain228

I'll escalate this but make sure to contact Sony directly as well >>> Local support

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Uliwooly — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 01:51:59 GMT

@Lazaros_K @Zoria @saved-j

I'll escalate this but make sure to contact Sony with your feedback >>> Local support

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

NNover — Thu, 01 Mar 2018 07:49:03 GMT

Just want to sign to this petition. Our hardware can handle most of this features, so it will be honest to Sony fans to bring it via updates .

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

nevenx — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 07:40:04 GMT

Bring us shooting in RAW too

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

AzimB — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 13:35:18 GMT

I have the xz premium... Since it's the same sensor, is the 4k hdr recording software based? Also, I'd like th. 4K to be a separate app again. I used to use it as a shortcut on thr home screen so I can switch between 1080p and 4K on the fly but now it's not so easy. Don't know why everyone complained about it. I like having an easy way to select 60fps or 4k30

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Nirai6 — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 15:49:08 GMT

@AzimBwrote:
I have the xz premium... Since it's the same sensor, is the 4k hdr recording software based? Also, I'd like th. 4K to be a separate app again. I used to use it as a shortcut on thr home screen so I can switch between 1080p and 4K on the fly but now it's not so easy. Don't know why everyone complained about it. I like having an easy way to select 60fps or 4k30

4k hdr recording is only supported in snapdragon 835. So, there is no way that it would come to xz premium.

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Artyomska — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 16:33:51 GMT

Snapdragon 845 actually, 835 is what we have and the last year flagship SoC

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

Zoria — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 17:14:14 GMT

Then there is 1080p super slow motion and the sensor is probably the same. This should work on xzp xz1 xz1c.

And no word was said that it will be delivered into xzp. Could it be?

As i am using old huawei p9 i am still catching that xzp has a better sensor, but it doesnt have portrait mode, while an old p9 has a good one, we still do not have a bit of control over video recording, p9 lets you adjust really a lot, we do have rather boring camera app an p9 has a great one. S9 has a move detection in ssm 960, xzp has got none. And probably its android 8 update will be its last one except for security patches. That makes this phone boring and getting old and old and old

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

nevenx — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 17:33:22 GMT

what are you talking about, 835 is able to do as much work as 845 and BTW, devs on xda already ported XZ2 camera to XZP. 4K HDR and 1080p slowmotion are working... It's up to SONY to bring those features officially and polish them good...

ps. new bionz algorithms works fine and bring XZ2 quality of photo to table!

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

artdesmuses — Thu, 03 May 2018 22:09:19 GMT

The most important update for the XZ1 I want is the new BIONZ algorithm from the XZ2, finally Sony proves they can compete with the best phones on market!

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

NNover — Fri, 04 May 2018 06:09:48 GMT

Unfortunately I don't belive Sony do this. Got snap camera app to close crappy photos issue, especially in low light mode (with camera 2api enabled).

Re: XZ2 Features for XZ1 Family?

artdesmuses — Fri, 04 May 2018 23:29:14 GMT

At least they could bring RAW to us... This is unbelievable that Sony, as a camera manufacturer specialist, don't allow RAW photos on their smartphones...!