topic Re: Graphic problem in PCs & Accessories

Graphic problem

Benjamin — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:10:55 GMT

hello!!

Once again i'm in trouble, and i count on you to get me out of this situation...
When i play several games, like recent ones, objects like characters, vehicles are pink coloured...Kinda graphic card problem i guess.
Could anyone please help me to get rid of that problem?

My config:
PCG K215M
512mo ddr
ATI radeon IGP 345M

Re: Graphic problem

nick_pan — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:47:22 GMT

what games are you playing exactly?

Assuming that your gfx card is 64mb,but integrated, you will certainly have problems playing newer games with this card as i dont think it supports newer versions of direct x and some other graphical features that new games employ.

Updating the drivers would be an idea but i dont think sony has released any yet..

Wait for the other guys to give u their opinion though in a bit

Re: Graphic problem

Benjamin — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:50:14 GMT

Battlefield vietnam is the game i had trouble with..actually it is supposed to be a 128mb video card.Am i wrong?

Re: Graphic problem

nick_pan — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:59:43 GMT

hmmm, thats a pretty demanding game that requries a directx9 compliant gfx card..which could be causing the problems..

with relation to your gfx card and memory, right click on your desktop and go to properties, settings,advanced and find your gfx card settings and hence its memory.

im almost sure, that the integrated cards come with a standard 64mb of memory which is then adjustable at the cost of ram.
However, i have seen just 1 model which came preloaded with 128mb of video memory..

If you do discover u only have 64mb, you should go to the bios and startup and you should be able to altenate your memory settings though i would i advice you to get more ram though..

Furthermore, this integrated gfx card is not really a gaming card..i have the model up in sony's line, the ATI Mobility 9200 and that card struggles with games..

Re: Graphic problem

TygerTyger — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:34:36 GMT

Games are a complete pain when you're playing on a Sony. I've had a similar problem with America's Army, and the troubleshooting process goes like this:
"I have problems with texture colours, what might the trouble be?"
"Upgrade DirexctX, check your system specs, update your graphics card driver"
"I can't update my driver there are no updates. Everything else is fine"
"Well until you update your driver we can't help you"
"But what if its not my driver?"
"Maybe its not we cant help you until you update your driver"
And so on into the night. Long story short Sony mostly don't bother with graphics card updates, and since most of these problems are solved with updates or include an update as necessary there is usually little you can do.
For my $0.02, memory has little to do with rendering aside from speed and efficiency, especially if apart from the texture colours you can run the game fine. More or less everything else comes with features of the graphics card (yknow fancy lighting and stuff) and the drivers, so my feeling is that its either a game bug or problem with the driver. Check for updated drivers and hassle Sony if there aren't any.

Re: Graphic problem

Benjamin — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:31:50 GMT

thanks for the advices guys
I'll do whatever is possible to get that fixed!
By the way, how can i get to bios?when i hit del while restarting, seems it doesn't work.

Re: Graphic problem

TygerTyger — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:08:59 GMT

Press F8 I think. If in doubt do as I do, run your finger up and down the F keys until something happens lol. It's always one of them.

Re: Graphic problem

kee-lo_ — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:10:36 GMT

I thought it was F2

Re: Graphic problem

TygerTyger — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:18:15 GMT

I guess it depends on the Bios. I always do the all-Fkeys finger-run trick anyway so I don't pay attention. You're probably right.

Re: Graphic problem

kee-lo_ — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:23:31 GMT

Hehe I do that on a new system too.

Re: Graphic problem

nick_pan — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:27:30 GMT

sorry pointless to continue this but im almost positive its F9

Re: Graphic problem

TygerTyger — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:35:51 GMT

LOL. I guess it really does depends on the bios.

Re: Graphic problem

kee-lo_ — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 13:39:30 GMT

Yes they all use different ones.

Re: Graphic problem

Benjamin — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:06:02 GMT

lol ok so i'll just sit down on my keyboard and wait 'til something happens
My problem is solved...I merely put the graphic settings to the lowest level!!! :smileyblush: It's a shame, i should have tried it first, but you know what it is, when a game crashes while you spent lot of money in it, well panic prevails on everything!:smileygrin:
But i've got another question: will adding some ddr allow me to raise a little bit the graphic settings level?

i hope one day they'll create plug and play videocards, just to boost those who are stuck on the side of gaming road...

Re: Graphic problem

TygerTyger — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 21:55:58 GMT

Or USB graphics cards.....I would certainly welcome an external graphics card of some kind. Adding more DDR will increase the performance of most things so yes, although at what point your troubles will start again is very hard to judge.

Re: Graphic problem

nick_pan — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:18:04 GMT

Adding more ram, to say 1024mb will allow you to up the memory of your graphics card to 128mb. However, you won't get such an increase in graphical performance because the actual chipset itself doesnt support modern day games and their graphics technologies, ie advanced shaders etc.

As for external graphics cards, sorry guys but not this century. Gfx cards need to be on the mobo where there is maximum bandwidth allowing huge gigs of graphical data to be processed and rendered in no time.. Firewire is what 480mb/s? enough for an external soundcard but a fraction of what a powerful graphics card will need...

the only slight external resemblence we'll see of gfx cards is them needing an AC adapter tho theyll still be on the motherboard..theyre getting that power hungry!

Re: Graphic problem

TygerTyger — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:19:38 GMT

Hey I would welcome an external graphics card with an AC power supply, as long as it wasn't much more expensive. Certainly would do wonders for us laptoppers. I'll start my designs tomorrow

Re: Graphic problem

nick_pan — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:24:47 GMT

the ac adapter will plug into the back of the pc..like your other ac for the pc..

laptops would take over if ext gfx cards we around..

we'd all get a nice slim and light 2ghz centrino which was ultra portable with about 512mb of ram..great for work etc

and when at home, we'd plug in our 6800GT ext gfx card and sound blaster audigy external sound card..and hey presto, a portable yet ultra powerful notebook..

Desktop out the window sorta thing

but nope. never gonna happen

Re: Graphic problem

Benjamin — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:44:12 GMT

why don't we create a "dreamer's room"?
I think we're gonna make those who seek anwers for graphical problems confuse with our theories on what computer engineering will be tomorrow!
Sorry for having launched such an idea!but seems it found an echo ...thx for the technical stuff about video cards, i didn't know about it

Re: Graphic problem

kee-lo_ — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:57:30 GMT

As for external graphics cards, sorry guys but not this century. Gfx cards need to be on the mobo where there is maximum bandwidth allowing huge gigs of graphical data to be processed and rendered in no time.. Firewire is what 480mb/s? enough for an external soundcard but a fraction of what a powerful graphics card will need...

I have to agree with Nick, this is just a pipe dream and probably won't happen for ages.